Sunday, 16 May 2010

No Moth Night again

A great turn out by the general public about 30 for the bat walk which produced pipistrelles and daubenton's but only 1 Common Quaker at the moth traps was a real let down for all who turned up.Many thanks for all who turned up.and Hugh and chris for the very well organised event.In Hebden bri managed 1 Red Green Carpet,1 herald and 3 Scalloped Hazel.


The whole point of NMN is to get other people involved and because of this I think NMN should be a set date each year ie the last week in June early July so we can show other people how fantastic moths are.May ,sept etc are for real enthusiats no the General Public.

8 comments:

Winston said...

My tally for National Moth Night was, wait for it... drum roll....

1 Clouded Drab

1 Caloptilia elongella/betulicola (seen during day at Trafford Centre)

Win

G.FEATHERSTONE said...

I TRAPPED ALONGSIDE 3 OTHER FRIENDS .TEMPERATURE DROPPED DOWN TO 3 DEGREES.PLUS A STIFF BREEZE.I HAD 3 HEBREW CHARACTERS AND 1 CLOUDED DRAB.ALMOST A WASTE OF TIME.CHEERS G.F.

Paul Talbot..aka Moffman said...

Hi Andy
I think you will find that the original aim of NMN was to gather a snapshot of what was flying on that date that year to build up a long term picture of UK abundance and or decline. The other aims were to foster public interest in moths and also a "target" species to be recorded for that year. What ever month you chose its always going to be hit and miss with weather and moth numbers. I have had better nights at CB in September than in June. Given the last two years July weather it would not have been great then either :-(( In some ways NMN is a victim of its own success in generating interest in moths. As every time the weather is poor in whatever month is chosen someone always suggests another month would have been better or perhaps it would be better as a week long event. Don't forget when NMN started we only had one person recording moths in Calderdale, now we have more than at any time. perhaps in local nature recording. So perhaps NMN and the internet has worked locally at least in generating that interest ?

charlie streets said...

I think if you're interested in getting more people interested in mothing or just providing some informative entertainment for the night it would make more sense to hold a public event in July and do NMN on a personal basis - if at all if the weather's poor.Shibden park seems a popular venue - well known and easy to get to.

Now if there was a National Moth DAY I'd be at the front of the queue!

AndyC said...

Im thinking of a calderdale Moth night as last year on the 12th June we ran about 8 traps across Calderdale and recorded many species so this year we may do the same .watch this space.

Chris said...

I think the idea of a co-ordinated moth trap across Calderdale one evening would be a great idea. Count me in.

Paul Talbot..aka Moffman said...

Charlie..NMN Does run the whole 24 hours or at least it used to do ? Ian Kimber and I used to send in our day time field trip records every year as well as our MV garden records on the night. I did query not allowing larval and leaf mine records and they did take these one year. I think the problem they have is that a few people (6 people when I did it) collate the whole of the data gathered in on the day and it took WEEKS to enter and collate even the section I did.

I suspect around 75% of the NMN's chosen so far have been a flop in terms of poor weather for moffing. I think any public events should be staged in more likely months as one can always pot up some more spectacular moths in the days before the event just in case the weather is poor. I stopped doing public events because I was worried about compensation claims from the public if they had an accident or the bulb blew. I also got sick of providing free entertainment for joe public from my own very limited spare time. It used to niggle me that several guided tours to the moth trap were given by various organisations with paid staff whilst I was expected to turn up and provide free entertainment and equipment without even petrol money being offered for all the travelling to stage the event.

charlie streets said...

Derek inquired about sending his (day time)records in this year but they weren't interested. So long as the VC recorders get the records I suppose that's the important thing.