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7 comments:
Looks easy .....but it has me fooled !!
Its a Copper underwing Species.either Copper or Svennsons there is much debate as to there identification at the moment.The palps are the id feature I use ie pale pals Copper black palps Svennsons.If its an old specimen then this does not work as the palps get worn.record it as Copper Underwing agg.
Thanks.
He or indeed she is in great condition! great capture.
Fine looking moth. Interesting about the worn specimen and worn palp thing Andy, I think everyone I've come across this year has been reasonably fresh so was confident using palps but I'm not 100% certain. Are other tests like the underside of the wings discredited now do you know?
Apparently Les Hill at BC Head Office is planning to conduct a DNA analysis on a large sample of Copper/Svennsons to get to grips with the situation; however, this will take at least a couple of years before anything is published. For what it's worth, the 'palps' thing seems to work on a good persentage of fresh moths in collobaration with the underside hindwing and forewing 'dagger' criteria, as a quick ID feature. Try using both to form your id if you are not sure record it as Copper Underwing agg.
cheers Andy
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